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Anyone want Pleasureland - and Cyclone? And maybe BPB?

Postby EAS » 10 Nov 2006, 19:32

This from Peter Crompton, who met with Dr John Pugh MP for Southport (and who recently visited Margate as one of the members of the Commons Select Committee) this afternoon.

So - if anyone is willing or has any contacts...

posted on 10-11-06 at 19:23

John Pugh interview



The results of this interview / meeting will be discussed at the usual meeting on Monday.

The discusion was very constructive and the outlook reasonably positive.

It's quite possible the Pleasure Beach at Blackpool are having a re adjustment.

The good news is that Sefton Council have pushed the covenant issue (which helps a lot)

Bad news is it could fall to the Scarisbrick Estate to decide whether to maintain the covenant, this affects us because at the moment the use is restricted. Remove the restriction and you have prime development land.


COVENANTS CAN BE SOLD TO HIGHEST BIDDERS

Will the Scarisbrick Estate stay true, and maintain the leisure only clause????

Will a potential developer take on the Cyclone?
they will want to see figures, running costs, takings estimates etc, to see if its profitable.

Will a buyer come in, apporach Sefton and take on the park again?

Perhaps Sefton Council will lease it back out as plots?

Perhaps a developer buys the covenant out, steps in and bulldozes the lot and puts an ice rink there.

That's when we need to PROTEST heavily (upon hearing the news of the return of the saws) and take direct actions

lets hope it gets resolved.

I will contacting the North West Development agency, any potential buyer , John Pugh , and if possible the people who buy (if it's true about a sell out) BPB

It's important that any developer knows the historic importance of the ride, its commercial viability, its value as an attraction, its value as focal point and its place in the hearts and minds of those who rode it, be they from Blackburn, Manchester Liverpool Morecambe , anywhere ! we all rode it and it was fun

and there are not many left.

Lets not forget that

Lets make sure the developers take us seriousley.

We must now begin to take on a business approach whilst maintaining the public support

and my thanks go to everyone that puts in the effort here

Let's work as a team, specialise in our tasks so we are harmonised, coherant and focused.

I will represent the society whenever I can but I appeal for a business minded person to come forward and help go through the figures with me, just in case i cant be around to represent us in the potential meetings.

thank you

Peter
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Postby Gary » 10 Nov 2006, 21:35

Hi EAS,

Looks like a piece of Scotland wants a piece of Southport right now..

http://www.loudouncastlevaults.co.uk/news.html
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Postby EAS » 10 Nov 2006, 21:52

Thanks - it was there last week, gone now! I gather not always the most reliable of rides...

It's dreadful the way it's all being dispersed, although rumour has it that BPB itself may even be up for grabs.

i've posted the link on the Cyclone site:

www.southportcyclone.com
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Postby Jim Douglas Jr. » 10 Nov 2006, 23:44

Will a potential developer take on the Cyclone?
they will want to see figures, running costs, takings estimates etc, to see if its profitable.


Almost irrelevant as it's dependant on what new facility is put in. Another park, a casino, shopping?
All of those things would draw people and likewaise, the uniqueness and draw of having the Cyclone on site in a non-ride park situation would be a draw in and of itself. Even if operated at a slight loss, the extra income generated on the site would be worth it.
In a casino situation, casino's make so much money that they could easily afford to maintain her and give away rides to patrons.

Even grocery stores sell their 'on sale' items sometimes at break-even or a slight loss knowing that it will bring people in and generate other sales. it's called a loss leader, I believe.
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Postby EAS » 11 Nov 2006, 04:00

I thnk the only hope is for someone to take it on as an amusement park. Whether or not anyone will be interested now that most of the other rides have been sold on I do not know. If anyone is interested then as you say, how profitable or not the park has been in recent times may not be relevant to them, if they feel that they can provide a more attractive product.

At the moment the local authority is able to resist any other use than leisure, but the covenants could be lifted. Even then, leisure is a wide remit. The problem is so much is out of the control of those who wish to see the place remain as a park, and retain Cyclone.
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