Big Dipper Blackpool. Track removed.

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Big Dipper Blackpool. Track removed.

Postby furie » 03 Nov 2006, 09:38

From Themeparkreview:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/vi ... c&start=20

Work has started on Big Dipper and track has started being removed to make way for the <cough>new<cough> ride (Traumatizer from Blackpool in case you weren't aware).

It's doubtful this is permanent, but there is an outside chance of the Big Dipper having its layout altered when it goes back up again.

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Postby EAS » 03 Nov 2006, 12:02

I rode the Dipper Tuesday... but yes it's all a mess around it.

I took pictures.

This is one of the country's most historic rides - the first undertrack.

It's very worrying.
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Postby EAS » 06 Nov 2006, 01:27

I gather more dismantling has happened, and that maybe changes are planned... very, very worrying indeed.
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Postby Zoidstar » 06 Nov 2006, 14:03

Is it not a listed structure?

if so than unless an aplication has been submitted and granted than no cgahge to the layout or removal of the ride can take place
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Postby EAS » 06 Nov 2006, 14:08

No, no coaster is listed except the Scenic Railway.

The braking system has been removed and the trains have vanished.
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Postby Zoidstar » 06 Nov 2006, 18:12

The trains could have been sent away for restoration, the breaking system could have been removed for overhaul, as for the track being removed it cold be so the Tizer can be re-errected in its new home the heavy lifting machineary will need room to manover
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Postby bpb daft » 06 Nov 2006, 20:15

EAS wrote:I gather more dismantling has happened, and that maybe changes are planned... very, very worrying indeed.


Bunkum. Pointless speculation and groundless rumour-mongering. The Ig Dipper will be back as normal at the start of 2007, with the only difference a possible tunnel over the affected turn. At worst there may be a slight re-route for the turn, although unlikely at this stage. The reason ? Simply due to foundation digging for Traumatizer.
The only possible long term changes for the Ig Dipper are a new braking system and changes in restraints, which is soley due to H&S / insurance pressures.
Ig Dipper has had constant rebuilds, changes in layout etc. in its eighty years. That's part and parcel of having a wooden ride, next to the sea, in a constantly evolving amusement park. What do you want to do ? Take it home and give it a cuddle ?

Stop talking from your behind in order to make pathetic political points.
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Postby David Ellis » 06 Nov 2006, 20:43

So which ride is the Ig Dipper?

I assumed it was merely a typographical error, but you have referred to it three times as Ig. Is this a local nickname for it?

Just wondered...seems odd that you appear to be speaking from an informed viewpoint (one which I agree with for what it's worth) yet you have been unable to get its name correct.

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Postby EAS » 06 Nov 2006, 20:43

I think we all know who that is - quite why though he feels he needs to post that I have no idea.

Some of us maybe have wider ideas and more vision about things though, which I'm not prepared to go into here.

This site in general is for grown ups, so I don't think you'll get much joy trolling.
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Postby bpb daft » 06 Nov 2006, 20:47

The main sign on the Big Dipper, following construction of 'Ocean Boulevard' was hidden from the promenade viewpoint. When the 'B' fell off (in the nineties) BPB didn't replace it, as it would have been too expensive! Hence, the name Ig Dipper, which is the name fondly given by many. With a 'new' coaster now being built, it will be interesting to see if they replace the B...
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Postby bpb daft » 06 Nov 2006, 20:50

I really don't think you have any idea who I am. I frankly don't care. If it makes you feel better to think of me as an enemy, rather than someone who simply doesn't share all of your righteous opinions, go ahead.
If you look carefully, I have been a member of this site for a good while. I usually lurk. Your abrasive, holier-than-thou, I'm-right-and-you-are-all-wrong attitude it what has roused me from my slumber. And not only on this site, may I add; you certainly are making a name for yourself and it's certainly not all positive. It can't be doing your reputation any favours.
Start getting some facts right and I may pay your views some attention. The sad thing is I actually agree with many of your wider views!

Why not put your views to those have the deepest interest? Come to the place where your views will be properly debated by those really in the know. Join the Club Pleasure Beach (ex-235 Club) forum and air your views.
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Postby EAS » 06 Nov 2006, 21:00

I don't actually care if you agree with me or not, you can argue amongst yourself. Or back to the BPB forum, with the infants.

If you get abusive and troll I think admin will remove your post anyhow.

Bob - where is Bob?

He was fun.

PS this person is hairyboglin I think on the BPB forum? Tells me he's a history teacher...
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Postby EAS » 07 Nov 2006, 10:33

The latest info I have is that there will be a track alteration to accommodate Traumatizer, which I don't like at all. I think that it's a lousy way to treat a historic ride.
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Postby Neil » 07 Nov 2006, 20:54

I really don't think you have any idea who I am. I frankly don't care.

In the Save Dreamland Campaign people are equals. We cast judgement upon what people say, not who says it. Whatever someone's social class, occupation of position 'do you know who I am?' type comments are not the object of the campaign. We are not sheeple who follow the person with the most prestige, but able to think for ourselves. You comments will be no more welcome if we know who you are.

Stop talking from your behind in order to make pathetic political points.

Your entitled to you opinions, but we are also entitled to be treated with repect. This forum is not a place for people to compete for the worse manners.

It can't be doing your reputation any favours.

People on here are fighting for what they believe is right, not to make themselves reputations. Reputation spinning is what has caused so many of the problems we know want to fight against.
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Postby EAS » 07 Nov 2006, 20:58

Thanks Neil - this is a spinover from the Blackpool Pleasure Beach forum.

Rather an excitable lot there - it's all those extreme rides I think.
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