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The Save Dreamland Campaign was launched by Joyland Books in January 2003 and is now supported by several thousand people. This is the place to discuss all aspects of saving Margate's famous amusement park and its iconic , Grade II listed Scenic Railway, Britain's oldest roller coaster.

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Postby Sarah » 07 Apr 2006, 23:35

We had a Margate Town Partnership event here at the Grotto this evening. One of those to attend was Barry Moss; we had a civil chat about Dreamland and the Big Wheel and he then felt compelled to tell me that he isn't Bob. Now, it's some considerable time since I suspected Barry of masquerading as Bob. I have other ideas now, and I know some fellow forum members do too (as does Barry).

For those of you still convinced that Barry = Bob, I offered to deny this on his behalf. (Although Barry does check the website he said he has been reluctant to join the forum and issue a denial as he thought this might constitute joining the Campaign. I assured him that I would indeed get the news of Barry Moss joining the SDC to the Gazette before he had even logged out.)

So, denial completed. I don't think Barry is Bob, but then I don't expect anyone to take my word for it.

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Postby Jim Douglas Jr. » 08 Apr 2006, 02:23

Who else would we believe, Sarah?
I'm satisfied if you say so.

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Postby Neil » 08 Apr 2006, 10:09

OK, I'll take your word for it. Did you ask Barry whether he think's Bob should be banned, as the response may have been interesting?

Perhaps it's time for Bob to tell us who he is, and also has he broken a rule here? Again by deliberately avoiding our questions he has clearly been attempting to mis-lead people. Again I'm not suggesting he should suddenly be banned after all this time, but perhaps there could be some more gradual disciplinary route.

I still feel that Bob has some connection with the Margate Regeneration Group. Agree that he's an antagonist, but there's clearly more to it than that. If only I were Sherlock Holmes.
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Postby David Ellis » 08 Apr 2006, 17:10

I don't think we will get a straight answer out of Bob as to his true identity...he has been asked several times if he is Barry and he has never denied it...so if he isn't Barry then it is pretty unlikely that he will tell us who he really is, or what connections he may have.

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Postby Lou » 08 Apr 2006, 18:11

Personally I don't really care who 'Bob' is........ 8)
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Postby Hixxy » 08 Apr 2006, 20:42

I'm glad somebody doesn't care becuase sometimes this forums feels a little obsessed in bob.... for a short while posessed by bob clones
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Postby Vince, Charlie and Sam » 08 Apr 2006, 21:00

The Bob clones are always easy to spot because they invariably use the same mangled syntax and are consistant in their spelling mistakes. Plus.........





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Postby Hairy Vince » 09 Apr 2006, 18:27

Bob.........is really old man Smithers from the Amusement Park...and he would have got away with it if it wasn't for you pesky Dreamland Kids....

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Postby dave771 » 09 Apr 2006, 19:03

I think Bob is really a man in a mask scoob ! I think im going to have a snack attack!

PS just had the most fantastic day out at Thorpe Park for my partners birthday and considering the bad weather there seemed to be a lot of people that still go to parks for a day out ! I know we cant compare the Dreamland site to Thorpe Park but still proves a point but we all know that anyway, shame that TDC cant get to grips with that fact !
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Postby RowBot » 09 Apr 2006, 19:16

Feels good to be back in dry clothes!

Dave if you could send me the couple of pics taken I would be very happy :D

Updated:

We went on all rides apart from Slammer what has technical problems. The new Stealth ride was really amazing and well worthe visiting the theme park if only for that.

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Postby Nick » 09 Apr 2006, 21:42

I was at Thorpe yesterday. Stealth is a fantastic ride. Just a shame it couldn't be as high as Top Thrill Dragster!

Slammer was working yesterday, but one ride was enough!
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Postby Neil » 10 Apr 2006, 08:08

This is going a bit off topic, but I'm sure a commited operator could make Dreamland better than Thorpe Park. I visited Thorpe a couple of years ago at the end of the season (but before Fright Nights start) and didn't have a very good time, but Pleasureland Southport was suberb.

Thorpe Park had very long queues (I was there from opening until closing and got 9 rides), whereas Pleasureland Southport was quieter and I got about 60 ride. Also Thorpe park was a rip off, whereas Pleasureland Southport was £15 including a meal, ice cream (I suppose this was kind of pudding), a goody bag and a large pumpkin (this was Halloween).

Incidentally I hope Pleasureland Southport and Blackpool Pleasure Beach don't go down hill, but so far I'm not too keen on what Amanda had done to the Pleasurebeach.

I'm glad somebody doesn't care becuase sometimes this forums feels a little obsessed in bob

Well people do like watching the weird and eccentric, which is perhaps why Little Britain is such a success. The funny thing about Bob is that you can imagiene him popping up in the next series (although I don't think they're doing any more, so this is really just a manner of speaking!)
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Postby Susan » 10 Apr 2006, 09:53

Interesting you should mention Southport, Neil.

The upgrading of the Amusement Park has been the making of the town and seen a substantial increase in tourism. Southport had suffered something of a decline, though still retaining a pleasant shopping street and some other facilities the lack of a good amusement park marked a serious drop in families and younger people visiting. This affected business viability and investment stopped.

Despite the death of Morecambe, and less competition, it struggled to encourage visitors. Now it is really on the map, we hear people again talking about a day at Southport. It appeals to all generations. Yet another example of how a well run amusement park can act as a catalyst for regeneration of a town via it's tourist industry.

TDC should do some serious fact finding and discover just what they are turning their back on.
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Postby RowBot » 10 Apr 2006, 11:11

Neil,

Next time you go I would advise you to purchase some fast tickets, for a bit more in price it takes you right to the front of the ques. Buying them seperatly its something about £2 per ride apart from £3 for Stealth but then again buying them when you order them (online) it gives you a dedicated hour to do that one ride and is even cheaper.

Personally I liked this system alot, since I don't mind waiting but I would like to go on all rides at least once.

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Postby Neil » 10 Apr 2006, 11:36

Again sorry for my ritual habbit of going off topic.

Firstly in regards to Pleasureland Southport I agree that in recent years it has seen massive imporvements with new theming, a fairly impressive entrance and some big new rides like Traumatizer. I'm not sure how much of this Amanda Thompson is responsible for, but to me turing the zoo area into paintballing is a big let down, they could have done so much more with the land. I agree about it helping to turn the rest of the town round, I hear that a Waterpark is planned for nearby and I can't imagiene such development being possible had they not added these new rides. Again things like a small ferris wheel are a bit of an anticlimax, but I suppose it is only a small park and you can't expect fantastic development year in year out.

In terms of the system Rowbot I can see why you use it, but I won't because it goes against the grain. Essentially it means the park can make more money by having long queues and removes the incentive to introduce queue cutting measures. It also means those who don't use it queue even longer than otherwise. I suppose it's a controversial issue.

I think I've been spoilt by Europa Park which is noticeably cheaper, has shorter queues, none of this extra money spinning nonsense. I still think Dreamland can do better than Thorpe.
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