Major fire on the Scenic Railway 7th Apr. Suspected arson.

The Save Dreamland Campaign was launched by Joyland Books in January 2003 and is now supported by several thousand people. This is the place to discuss all aspects of saving Margate's famous amusement park and its iconic , Grade II listed Scenic Railway, Britain's oldest roller coaster.

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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 18:30

English Heritage regional office may be able to help.

But not until tomorrow now!
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Postby porf » 07 Apr 2008, 18:35

Short youtube clip:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMY_c_aqM54

With regards to the continuation of the campaign I'm all for making the developers task as difficult as possible now.

Strangely I'd kind of fallen into thinking they'd given up on burning it and expected it to end with demolition and a sit-in.
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Postby kevinashe » 07 Apr 2008, 18:36

have emailed the maineek as he is likely to be on site at pleasureland,do you have any numbers or email addresses that we can put pressure on eh to do something
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 18:39

The regional EH office should be informed asap in the morning... although EH is really not responsible for Grade II in cases of fire etc they can at times help.

But important that they are there to assess the site before the fire crew or the council does.

NO work apart from making safe (and the site is fenced off) should be carried out to the remiander of the structure without EH being given the chance to assess.
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Postby Zoidstar » 07 Apr 2008, 18:39

One of the most important parts will be the biggest drop and the structure round it if the fire has damaged these sections to an extent where they are deemed unsafe then a restoration will be very hard to achive not impossible just very very hard.

In aviation presevation some people say if 75% of the original aircraft is used then its still original, 50% of the original is part replica, 25% or less of the original then its a replica, however some say just an original Data plate is enough to call a totally new build aircraft original...

Just lets not fall in to the same farce of Brightons West Pier when the Trust were calling it a restoration if only a very very small (about 5%) of the origianl structure was going to be used.
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 18:42

Aircraft and listed structures aren't the same. I think nothing is impossible, but it doesn't belong to us...

EH Regional Office needs to be contacted asap! and whoever is the Historic Buildings officer got on site asap.
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Postby David Ellis » 07 Apr 2008, 18:45

I cannot believe it...only just turned on my computer to find endless emails about the Scenic on fire. Those pictures and that YouTube video are just shocking. I am really gutted as I am sure we all are.

A tragic day for Margate. Let's hope enough is salvageable, although I am worried if the trains are also destroyed. It is criminal in every sense of the word.

I am moved to tears over the images...so sad.

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Postby stuart » 07 Apr 2008, 18:46

Have just been to have a look and found it really upsetting - I just hope that 'they' haven't won.

I think everyone in Thanet with a few braincells know what has happened here and it's been done in broad daylight and conveniently, when the children are off school so 'kids' get the blame.

Well I hope that the firestarter's luck has run out.
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 18:49

I had some sort of strange feeling and quite why I don't know, but logged on to the forum.

Just feel so helpless, like while they were chomping up Cyclone, despite all our efforts..

There's a comment I agree with on the youtube clip... maybe the language is a bit blue, but...
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Postby Lou » 07 Apr 2008, 18:55

I felt physically sick when i first heard - a text from my daughter - and i still feel sick, two and a half hours later.
Hoping there is enough to salvage.
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Postby waveydavey » 07 Apr 2008, 18:56

Well we can always ask the council seeing as half of them are on the board of directors of the company that owns the dreamland site. Nice little earner for them isnt it. Wont have any trouble getting planning permission will they, oops did i say to much again.
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 19:00

There's still a Planning Brief saying it has to be an amusement park, apart from enabling development.

Well the ED can help repaor the damage...
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 19:08

A post on

http://eastcliffrichard.blogspot.com/20 ... -fire.html


watch the late meridian news the head of thanet council says they will do whatever it takes to rebuild it just seen him interviewed by meridian news and he said it to the camera!

7:27 PM
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Postby EAS » 07 Apr 2008, 19:11

Jon said...
I've been down to have a look. The blaze is out, and I would guess about a quarter of the coaster has collapsed. It's salvagable.
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What a sad day. My pics: (sorry. they're big)

Postby jotammaro » 07 Apr 2008, 19:11

http://www.tammaro.co.uk/1large.jpg

http://www.tammaro.co.uk/2.jpg

http://www.tammaro.co.uk/3large.jpg

http://www.tammaro.co.uk/4large.jpg

Edited to take pics out and put links in instead as I was putting the page all out of bonk! Sorry!
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