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is dreamland now saved or does the fight continue ?

go check last post on the "Inspectors Report - Read it here first!" thread please and it will explain all thanks to sarah

dreamland wrote:is dreamland now saved or does the fight continue ?

Dreamland is not saved. Its a very false assumption to think it is.

Bob, Jimmy or whoever you are, It's much nearer than it was last week, and the supporters of this campaign are not going to sit back.

Vince.

True...this is a very positive step on the road to saving the park.

As this Forum is here to promote the saving of Dreamland, hence the name "Save Dreamland Campaign", why hasn't Bob said anything that suggests he wants to help save it?

I am all for freedom of speech, but I don't think this Forum needs anyone who doesn't want the park to be saved, or be successful.

If you are really on our side Bob, please can you help us see your points of view in context by explaining in what capacity you speak.

Thanks,
David.

David Ellis wrote:True...this is a very positive step on the road to saving the park.

As this Forum is here to promote the saving of Dreamland, hence the name "Save Dreamland Campaign", why hasn't Bob said anything that suggests he wants to help save it?

I am all for freedom of speech, but I don't think this Forum needs anyone who doesn't want the park to be saved, or be successful.

If you are really on our side Bob, please can you help us see your points of view in context by explaining in what capacity you speak.

Thanks,
David.

To save Dreamland you need someone to run it and it needs to be a viable business. There is no evidence to suggest either are possibilities at present. Whilst the ideal might be for the entire site to be run as an Amusument park it would almost certainly not be viable. The inspectors report recognises that which is why he is permitting retail developmen of a suitable type on some of the land.

I've stuck my neck out in the past to defend your right to free speech Bob, but I really feel that David's question merits an answer- it's simply good manners to introduce yourself to members of a forum.

Do you have any business interest in Dreamland? Or are you, like me, simply a local resident with your local area's best interests at heart?

Do you ever visit Dreamland? Do you want the Scenic Railway to survive?

Come on, introduce yourself properly!


Vince, Charlie and Sam

can i suggest something to every1 on this site.instead of wasting time on bob,just ignore him.he obviously gets a kick out of all yr replies

Well, he has the right to his opinion, and this is a forum for the exchange of opinion. Even if he was advocating the demolition of the Scenic Railway and re-development of the whole site, then he would have the right to express that view, just as we have the right to advocate the retention of the park for tourism.

It would be a courtesy for him to explain whether he has any vested interest in Dreamland's future though, and I hope he will take the opportunity to do so, and to introduce himself a little more.

The way that I see it is that we have won the battle but not the war.
Yes the report shows what we have felt all along but there is still plenty to be done.
In that respect Bob is probably right, Godden is not going to suddenly have a U turn and start to run Dreamland as it should be.
Having got his planning problems resolved it looks as if the guy at Southend wil now put all his time & money into that venture.
If Godden can let the Rotunda stand idle who is to say he will not do the same with Dreamland? Godden is rich enough to be able to bind his time and not be rushed into selling the Dreamland site. Always assuming that somone comes forward wanting to buy and develop the site as a theme park and being able to reach a financial agreement with Godden.
I still believe that it will all come right in the end , but that is likely to be a little while yet !
The campaign is not over yet.

Hi Coasternutter,

Things have moved on a little bit, because Godden is now a minor shareholder in the park, so the chances are that the other shareholders are real businessmen, and will want to see some money rather than watch Jimmy playing 'I want my toy back'.

So however much money he has, it's not all his to play with now, so we need to wait to see if the other shareholders are men or just little boys like Jimmy!

Vince.

Very true he is not the only person who owns the park so as yet we still might have a shareholder that wants to pass the park on for some profit and at the same time give it to somebody who will do something with the park. On the subject of Jimmy wanting to make something of Dreamland I couldn't see happening since so many places have gone down the drain (in my opinion) because of him why would he want to start being mr nice guy now?

RowBot wrote:Very true he is not the only person who owns the park so as yet we still might have a shareholder that wants to pass the park on for some profit and at the same time give it to somebody who will do something with the park. On the subject of Jimmy wanting to make something of Dreamland I couldn't see happening since so many places have gone down the drain (in my opinion) because of him why would he want to start being mr nice guy now?

In the end any Business man wants to make a profit and if its a plc there is a legal duty to get the best return for the companies shareholders.

So are the new company that have the majority share a PLC ?

Yup, they're a PLC if I've got the right one at Companies House

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/9bfcf848019749008875cb2f7e203c2d//compdetails

MARGATE TOWN CENTRE REGENERATION COMPANY LIMITED
147 STAMFORD HILL
LONDON
N16 5LG

Company No. 05291909

Date of Incorporation: 19/11/2004

Company Type: Private Limited Company

Edited : They are a PRIVATE LIMITED COMPANY, not PUBLIC