The Turner is go...

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The Turner is go...

Postby EAS » 24 Feb 2008, 12:40

Can't say I care for the architecture (but there will be claims it's 'iconic' rather than a collection of sheds)

but this could have positive spin - offs for Dreamland:


http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART54530.html


The construction of the Turner Contemporary gallery is now assured after Thanet District Council granted it planning permission on February 20 2008.



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Re: The Turner is go...

Postby Vince, Charlie and Sam » 24 Feb 2008, 14:58

EAS wrote:Can't say I care for the architecture


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It balances Arlington House quite nicely.
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Postby EAS » 24 Feb 2008, 18:55

But it's by the winner of the Stirling Prize... so we are not allowed to say the Emperor is naked.
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Postby Nick Evans » 24 Feb 2008, 18:59

What troubles me most about the new design for the Turner Centre is that it is going to take away the uphill section of the dual carriageway on Fort Hill. That was something that wasn't made obvious in the original submissions - I think we missed that one.

Its loss will surely mean the other carriageway becomes very busy and very narrow - accidents waiting to happen and all that, I'm sure. The lifeboat house will also have to be knocked down and moved somewhere else.

Other seaviews will also be lost. The building may look beautiful to some but I have serious reservations - especially some years down the line when it might look rusty and wind battered.

What does everyone else think?
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Postby EAS » 24 Feb 2008, 19:37

I'm not a total srchitectural Philistine, but I have grave doubts about many who are famous names at the moment... this one is by Chipperfield. Yes jokes abut being designed by a circus monkey will all have been heard before...

I think it dominates, (ie it can then be called a 'landmark') the colour is too brashly white, and I read it was glass? Seems a lot of glass if so...

From that pic it looks like a collection of large sheds. Think out of town superstore.

Will delve further. I gather this was the winner in a sort of architecture competition.

http://www.davidchipperfield.co.uk/

There's a larger pic on that site if you search. Looks even more of a sore thumb.
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Postby Lou » 24 Feb 2008, 21:30

UGLY, UGLY, UGLY - and wheres the carparking going to be? Nightmare I think......
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Postby porterm » 25 Feb 2008, 02:14

It kind of resembles some kind of power station to me. Rather uninspiring to me from this image, but then the whole project has never really aroused me, whatever the building design.

Martin

PS I just wonder what Prince Charles will make of this
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Postby Jim Douglas Jr. » 26 Feb 2008, 01:48

If it's glass, it's probably more apt to reflect the color of the sky rather than white, as in this rendition.
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Postby Becks045 » 26 Feb 2008, 16:25

Not a great design especially given the amount of time they have had to come up with something.

I wish Thanet District would wake up and realise that The Turner Gallery WILL NOT transform Margate. There are so many other things which need to be undertaken in Margate before it is even considered as a resort/destination of choice for London/out of town people.

I had the misfortunate of having to live in Margate last Summer and I couldn't wait to get out of there. So depressing, the entire high street closed down, tacky arcades, the majority of the sea-front bored up and Dreamland closed. And NOTHING to do, no nice bars, no restaurants, dull, dull, dull. People will never move from London and bring money to the area if this is what the council think is good.

The council thinks its done a wonderful job of Margate old town...wow there are a couple of coffee shops and some art galleries which were never open when I went. They call this regeneration. Its an insult. I suggest the council go on a day trip to Brighton where they could actaully see the facilities and amentities that local people and visitors demand. A few lousy shops in the old town is not sufficient.
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Postby CW » 26 Feb 2008, 16:58

I feel compelled to offer a different slant on the previous post.

I am going to buy a house in Margate and bring my money from London.

I am not investing in Margate because of the Turner Gallery or any intended investments from various bodies over the next five years, however these will improve the area and protect my investment.

I am buying in Margate because I love the feel of Margate as does my young family and any friends that I have introduced to the place.

There is a great deal of doom and gloom on these page without much light, a lot of problems without answers. I agree that there is a large amount of Margate which is run down and needs improvement, but there is also a great slice of coastline which is without comparrison in the UK.

Perhaps the Turner Gallery won't change Margate overnight, but it is a step in the right direction, and any positive action however big or small, including a couple of coffee shops and art galleries, should be supported, it's got to be better than doing nothing!
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Postby paul69 » 26 Feb 2008, 19:30

totally agree with every word CW we are doing the same. good luck. :P
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Postby EAS » 26 Feb 2008, 19:50

I think it's white glass. I reserve judgment until I see it... but I am sure people will visit, and possibly those visiting will enjoy the cafe with the views and hopefully the changing exhibitions, and then realise that the coastline is lovely...

It's easy to blame local authorities, but in fact it's not the local authority which owns boarded up businesses and shuts down Dreamland. They really have not got cash to buy up places en masse, and run them, they have to rely on government cash in small quantities for very specific schemes, where available, for Trusts (many of which rely on volunteers to run them, with possibly a skeleton staff if they are lucky) to have some hope that Lottery cash etc is available, and for individuals to want to run businesses.

There is no easy fix.
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Postby EAS » 26 Feb 2008, 21:49

Anyhow - back to the Turner:

http://www.turneroundmargate.com/final- ... -revealed/


I wait to see it 'in the glass' with interest. My initial reaction is that I don't care for it.

Context is all, and I feel it's out of context.
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