The Turner is go...

[susiemags]

What troubles me most about the new design for the Turner Centre is that it is going to take away the uphill section of the dual carriageway on Fort Hill. That was something that wasn't made obvious in the original submissions - I think we missed that one.

Its loss will surely mean the other carriageway becomes very busy and very narrow - accidents waiting to happen and all that, I'm sure. The lifeboat house will also have to be knocked down and moved somewhere else.

Other seaviews will also be lost. The building may look beautiful to some but I have serious reservations - especially some years down the line when it might look rusty and wind battered.

What does everyone else think?

Why can they not use buildings that are already empty for example Dremland Cinema borded up we could corperate scenic railway , th new fun fair and the well wanted (not) Turner centre in the same vicinity
WHY ARE MARGATE COUNCIL building a new building when Margate has so many unused ones???

[eddiegi686]

What troubles me most about the new design for the Turner Centre is that it is going to take away the uphill section of the dual carriageway on Fort Hill. That was something that wasn't made obvious in the original submissions - I think we missed that one.

Its loss will surely mean the other carriageway becomes very busy and very narrow - accidents waiting to happen and all that, I'm sure. The lifeboat house will also have to be knocked down and moved somewhere else.

Other seaviews will also be lost. The building may look beautiful to some but I have serious reservations - especially some years down the line when it might look rusty and wind battered.

What does everyone else think?

Has anyone noticed the carriageway is currently restricted by road works? Is that related or just resurfacing or something?

I don't like where they've positioned the Turner centre dwarfing the building next to it. Why couldn't they incorporate a structure into the pier to bring that back into use? Also why is it so ugly? Might as well put a Tesco store there intsead!

[fadman]

OK now image it with 40ft wave crashing over it like a few weeks ago, least they wont have to spend out for window cleaners lol

[eddiegi686]

40ft waves? In margate?

[EAS]

Margate Council (Thanet?) isn't building this, it's partly Kent County Council and using a great deal of external funding which would not be able to be spent on anything else.

It's been in the planning for a long time, and public consultation was part of that. The plans are now passed and it's too late to start campaigns against it now!

The architect is internationally famous and anything which will put Margate back on the map can't be a bad thing, hopefully. I did post a great deal more about this on another thread, including a video, and I gather plans are in place to restore the surrounding buildings also.

As far as the road goes - I understand that it's being made into single carriageway in order to slow down traffic and make it safer for pedestrians to cross.

The Dreamland Cinema isn't available - it's not owned by the council - and it's hopefully going to be re-used as part of a new Dreamland.

[eddiegi686]

People have been complaining about the plan to reduce the size of the carriageway. Personally when travelling between home and Uni by car I've not seen it used a great deal as a dual carriageway - but i travel mostly in the early hours or evenings when things are quieter. I can say though that getting rid of that capacity of two lanes will have a massive impact during peak times - when i've driven in the middle of the day it's much more important and it's the main route to Canterbury if you go by the coast and past Westbrook- hence there are speed cameras that follow that route - Canterbury Road.

I know this is not the place to campaign about traffic problems but the Turner Centre won't help margate if it gets rid of roads we already have! There are traffic lights and one or two crossings further down the road so its not like there's any need whatsoever to reduce the number of lanes.... I wonder if it will make it harder for the police to get in and out of the Police Station? It's sure to affect anyone who lives in Cliftonville / Palm Bay or lives by the coast and wants to get anywhere out of the isle.... maybe they want to stop us escaping to Canterbury! - Just build enough holiday inns and travelodge's around Westwood for all these tourists to stay in.. heh

rant over.

[Chris H]

Scale models should be produced to be sold in the local joke shop!! I still cannot believe this project is actually going to go ahead.
Still, if it does i shall eagerly be awaiting the next storm

[EAS]

From today's Building Design

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sto ... eklydigest

Small quote from that:

As well as the gallery, part of the seafront is to be redeveloped. Can this regenerate Margate in the same way the Tate has regenerated St Ives?

Margate has some of the most deprived wards in the South-east. Lots of things can help turn a town around, it’s not just about new buildings. Our commitment to working with the community, as well as our education and training remit, are very important.

Other projects in the next 10-20 years will also help to move things forward, including plans for the Dreamland site and the lido, the government’s housing agenda and the future of key spaces such as the M&S building on the High Street, which is currently our project space.

It’s about thinking differently about the town — can it be that seaside resort again? If not, it should aim at something else. Obviously, I want the gallery to be a fantastic cultural institution. I also want it to support the wider regeneration of the town and east Kent, but it’s never going to be easy or fast. Turner Contemporary has done a lot to create confidence in the town, and change is afoot.

[EAS]

It looks as though this will run and run:

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sec ... 00014c8e9b

[EAS]

Today's episode:

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sec ... 113789&c=2

[EAS]

The Turner is certainly go, it seems:

http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART59669.html

[Lou]

it sorta reminds me when you go down to Newquay and there is a lovely beach, cliffs etc and then there is a horrendous sealife centre which looks like a warehouse -stuck right on the seafront..........
Lou