Major fire on the Scenic Railway 7th Apr. Suspected arson.

The Save Dreamland Campaign was launched by Joyland Books in January 2003 and is now supported by several thousand people. This is the place to discuss all aspects of saving Margate's famous amusement park and its iconic , Grade II listed Scenic Railway, Britain's oldest roller coaster.

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Postby EAS » 18 Apr 2008, 11:12

But - this campaign is about trying to reverse that decline, so at least we are trying to be part of the solution!


want someone who is a giant to come along and treat Margate like their very own special model village. I want them to return Margate to its man-made majestic beauty. I want them to lovingly recreate the scenic railway and the big wheel. Make Dreamlands a place possible for teenage lovers to have dreams, the Teddy Boys to whirl on the wurlitzer and Mods to dodge with their girlfriends on the dodgems, the Victorian promenade to be graced with beautiful, wrought-iron railings.
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Postby Geoffers » 18 Apr 2008, 11:35

I have to say, no one has put it better than she does in that article... I even myself, imagine at times, having won enough money to make my dreams come true and return Margate to gory.... wonder if anyone has ever writtent to any one of money and fame, or media personality, to maybe be a figure head for the fight?
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Postby cliffc » 18 Apr 2008, 12:51

Geoffers wrote:Ito gory.... wonder if anyone has ever writtent to any one of money and fame, or media personality, to maybe be a figure head for the fight?


HI Geoffers

I think Margate has allreadt been returned to Gory by the current council et al. I am assuming you ment glory which I am sure every body would agree with.

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Postby paul69 » 18 Apr 2008, 17:10

Thanks for the link Troy and CW what a nice well written read ( but sad ) and thanks to Tracy for not forgetting Margate.
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Postby Lou » 18 Apr 2008, 18:09

As I am exactly the same age as Tracey, i really do understand what shes saying - Margate and Dreamland used to be a wonderful place and one day I hope it will be again.
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Postby Bob » 19 Apr 2008, 16:23

EAS wrote:The high metal fence was put there without any permissions - it was illegal. The local authority took enforcement action. That's its legal duty.

Doubt that anything would deter those determined to torch the Scenic Railway.

The site is still designated for an amusement park - with or without the Scenic.

Without the Scenic, then there should be no need for 'enabling development', so it's in the best interest of the site owners to get it fixed maybe!



The High Metal fence was to protect the site unfortunately campaigners forced the removal of it. It looks as if some vandals got onto the site and set fire to the scenic. If the high fence had been in place stell they probably would not have been able to get in.
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Postby Susan » 19 Apr 2008, 17:28

Welcome back Bob we wondered where you were at this time.

Your comment might have been valid and, indeed, one that might have been considered until we had the benefit of very close filming on the news when the hole was shown. Had you the benefit of full information, or watched all the news items, you would appreciate the fence was not the first hurdle to be overcome by the arsonist.

This is a very serious crime and being treated so by the authorities.

You have been asked many times who you are, or who you speak for, and regularly failed to respond. We would be happy to debate with you if you would just be a little more open and honest.
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Postby dave771 » 19 Apr 2008, 17:59

I would agree that you have a valid point Bob if the fence you are reffering to surrounded the Scenic and made it a secure site. But, it didn't, it only went along the front of the Scenic and top end of the park. There was no type of fencing at the back of the Scenic so your arguement isn't valid in the slightest as to the cause being a change in the type of fencing being used to secure the site.
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Postby EAS » 19 Apr 2008, 18:21

I wonder why Bob seems to pick on my posts to quote?

As I think I said earlier in this thread, it was the local authority which took action against the fence, which had no permission. And yes - the TV news reports showed a large gap in the wooden fence, large enough to get several arsonists plus petrol through.

So much for site security eh Bob?
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Postby vince69619 » 20 Apr 2008, 09:16

I am not making any accusations, but Bob is guessing that the arsonists did not have the keys!

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Postby smilerbaker » 21 Apr 2008, 08:51

Bob wrote:
EAS wrote:The high metal fence was put there without any permissions - it was illegal. The local authority took enforcement action. That's its legal duty.

Doubt that anything would deter those determined to torch the Scenic Railway.

The site is still designated for an amusement park - with or without the Scenic.

Without the Scenic, then there should be no need for 'enabling development', so it's in the best interest of the site owners to get it fixed maybe!


The High Metal fence was to protect the site unfortunately campaigners forced the removal of it. It looks as if some vandals got onto the site and set fire to the scenic. If the high fence had been in place stell they probably would not have been able to get in.


Back from your hols? how was the sun?
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Postby kevinashe » 21 Apr 2008, 19:19

according to the urban exploration site 28 days later one of their members tried to take pictures of the scenic on the park and was immediately pounced on by security,the same guy is surprised how the arsonists did it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Geoffers » 22 Apr 2008, 08:32

Bob!,

welcome back. Why come back when you don't really seem to support us?
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Postby Susan » 22 Apr 2008, 15:35

We have made a number of appeals for accusations, either veiled or otherwise, not to be posted on this Forum.

Can I please ask that people abide by this, our moderators, who are all volunteers working in their own time, only have to take them off.

It doesn't help the cause that we are all working so passionately for.
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Postby thanet26294 » 22 Apr 2008, 16:36

Susan wrote:We have made a number of appeals for accusations, either veiled or otherwise, not to be posted on this Forum.

Can I please ask that people abide by this, our moderators, who are all volunteers working in their own time, only have to take them off.

It doesn't help the cause that we are all working so passionately for.


Hear Hear! Let the Police do their job and lets concentrate on the future
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