Exhibition of Dreamland Proposals

[Lou]

I have just been into see the plans and i am really really angry, infact i wasn't the only one and the guy showing the plans had to walk away (don't worry, didn't say i was part of the campaign, wrote my disgust on the piece of paper and didn't slam the door too hard on my way out. Don't get me wrong, i don't usually get angry but this whole thing seems sown up. Why don't we get listened too.
Both plans are basically housing, one has a 'token' amusement park, which i believe would be there a few years and then be built on.
These houses i believe would be for londoners who would be able to purchase, and have a house by the lovely beach then just trundle their way to and from london from the nearby station.
The consultation has been a farce, Everyone i speak to wants Dreamland up and running, why should we accept a bunch of houses from people who are only interested in making a quick profit, because thats what it will be.
If we accept either of these plans, Dreamland is no more. How has it got to this. Money obviously is the most important factor in all of this and sod everything else.

[porterm]

Anyone fancy having a mini meet-up to view the exhibit one afternoon this coming week? (I should be available most afternoons this week at present)

Martin

[EAS]

Well of course the consultation has been a farce - they own land on which they want to build and make a fortune! They don't want Dreamland as an amusement park!

What did anyone expect? Philanthropy?

[David Ellis]

and we all know that the Scenic cannot be moved...so why on earth was that even considered as part of an option?

David.

[Nick]

News of our latest concept plan for Dreamland is on the News page.

http://www.joylandbooks.com/scenicrailway/news.htm

We propose to send this to MTCRC as our formal response to the consultation.

All members should have also received a 'Members Update' on our new Vision for the park as well, asking for your comments.

If you haven't received a members update and you think you are registered, please email me: nick@savedreamland.co.uk.

[RowBot]

I must admit even though it has the leisure I still think that would work as an amusement park Congrats to Nick, Sarah, Susan and Dave on working on this Plan B.

Ian

[furie]

It looks great to me, and I was all in favour of doing something similar at Pleasureland.

It makes the Runaway Coaster demolition even more of a crime though! It would solve some issues with the good stuff from Southport too I see, and from Rhyl All good in my view.

One thing that strikes me though... How much more professional the plan looks (in terms of completeness) than anything proposed so far!

[vince69619]

All credit to the people behind Plan B, but unless there have been things going on that we are unaware of, it seems a bit early to be talking compromise and backup plans before the first battle.

Waterbridge are basically trying to say that they will only run an amusement park if they are allowed to put housing on the site, well unless there has been a change in the approved use for the site, an amusement park is all they are allowed on there.

Have the Campaign done a business plan for the whole site as an amusement park? Did this suggest loss of some of the park was the only option?

Vince.

[bluea61]

Would the Water Chute be the one form Rhyl, and would the Runaway Coaster have been the one from Rotunda if it hadn't been destroyed?

[Jim Douglas Jr.]

That's immediately what I thought (Runaway Coaster). It's so sad that it was torn down rather than dismantled. Maybe the Wild Mouse for Pleasureland could be gotten in it's place?

[furie]

Maybe the Wild Mouse for Pleasureland could be gotten in it's place?

Well... There appears to be a wooden wild mouse on the plans...

[lightning]

I attended the exhibition yesterday and cant say I was particularly impressed. Both plans include elemants of a park, but the Duke of york is clearly the least worst.

Some of the ideas such as moving the scenic railway up to Hall by the sea road so it runs along the sea front seem massively expensive and unlikely to ever proove viable, but serve to make the King Cobb plan more attractive on initial inspection.

I will accept that houses MAY be needed to help pay the way of the project, but as others have said these will be subject to a lot of noise and problems. It is no secret that a lot of margate (though much less than a few years ago) is desperately in need of improvement. There are many old victorisn hotels that are currently run down flats. These would be much better served in restoration than taking away large areas of one of Margates greatest assets.

I do howver appreciate the inclusion of heritage names for the roads. Maybe I missed it, but where is the parking? Are they going to use the multi storey car park you are not allowed to park in?

One presumably rejected plan shows a new pier with the Scenic Railway along side! I know that this is about as likely as me going out with Kylie Minogue, but at least they are thinking. This would (cynic hat on) give more room for housing.

Of course the beach is wonderful, and we allegedly will one day see the Turner Centre open, but sadly these will not draw crowds. What we need is a decent amusement park. The heritage park idea (Duke of York) could have some merit if enough decent rides are found that mr godden has not yet destroyed.

I would rather see the Duke of york plan than nothing, but I still believe that with decent rides Dreamland would make money. The poor quality fairground rides of last year were a start but much more is needed. The park at Southend seems to do very well on a much smaller site. I was there on a dull November day and it was still busy.

It really saddens me to see the decline of Dreamland and I am sure that it could be reversed, but once houses are built, that is it. Finished.

I read in some of the material provided there "Jimmy Godden is a succesful theme and amusement park owner. Are any of his parks open and or succesful? He has been a dreadfully unlucky man with fires and I feel very sorry for him.

Finally, maybe I am being thick, I can see the King Cobb connction but what has the Duke of York got to do with it?

[kevinashe]

what a cracker of an idea to save so many classic rides,i take it funding is available if it gets the go ahead especcially the water chute,whip and my favourite the turtle chase which i thought was gone forever when bpb tried to sell the cars on ebay although there is one lying derelict in america ps the monster from bpb was also supposed to be lying around at pleasureland any plans for this on the site nick

[Jim Douglas Jr.]

Is it (Wild mouse on the plan)?
I'm at work and didn't get to take a really good look.

It's a banger of an idea, and I can see cotton candy and roasted peanut stands, a skee-ball arcade.... the options for a vintage style apark are endless.

[RowBot]

BBC News Article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/6607285.stm