Public meeting

[Hairy Vince]

Thats all very interesting Bob, but what I would really like to hear is what music you would like to hear at the fundraiser??

PS What does calling someone a lie actually entail?

PPS Who is going to sue the crowd yesterday for heckling the current Tory Leader of Thanet District Council

[Jim Douglas Jr.]

Links to blogs can be time consuming, because you have to read everything to find what you're looking for. best to cut-n-paste the passage.
Here's the relevant passage from the link above:


That would be, I suspect, someone from the Save Dreamland campaign. The Save Dreamland Campaigns forum gives some details and a name of someone who apparently would take the site. Sadly the forum acts very aggressively towards anyone who doesnt agree completely and to the letter with every post there is on that forum which is a real shame. Im sure they did a similar thing at the Local Plan Full Council meeting a while ago.
Good to hear that theres mroe certainty about the sucess expected from the new Turner Contemporary.

Posted by James Maskell | 9:51 AM

My reponse to that:
I think we're only agressive to Bob The Liar.
It's called "Save Dreamland", not "Let's Discuss Possibly Giving Up Dreamland"
We're here to discuss SAVING the park. Point blank. Period.
It's a place to collect news items and proactive thoughts on what we can do to insure that the park remains.
Obviously, discussion is encouraged and viewpoints from all sides help reveal facts and reach goals, but the pointless, lying naysayers really have no place here.
If they're so against it, they can start their own site and campaign. It's a free internet.


Illinformed,
Agressive isn't always a negative term. Rather than just whining and moaning on a message board, the members here are getting into the streets, contacting the council, and raising public awareness for something they believe in.
Better than sitting at home on our duffs watching TV all night.
We need more people willing to put themselves out for something they care about rather than just taking whatever life hands them.

DaveD,
"It's easy to misinterpret the condemnation of Bob and the odd Bob stooge as being aggressive; maybe that's the idea? Maybe they want to paint us as aggressive because things are often said to provoke opinion which naturally generates a strong reaction from the campaign members. It is annoying in many respects because by taking to the streets and canvassing the opinion of locals, people had a good chance to see the good-natured character of the people involved & could have approached us with their opinion; seeing first hand that we would have listened politely and intently to every negative and positive comment. "

Good point.
Just another reason to ignore Bob's inane statements and not comment on them.

[Nick]

The Councillor is quite correct no one is prepared to take on the whole site.

I have spoken to Philip Miller this evening, and he confirms that he is interested in taking on the entire site. In fact, he would prefer the entire site.

[Bob]

And why would that be then Bob? personally I couldnt care less mate ! and I doubt that the campaign has anything to worry about, I think you need to be clear of the facts and thats exactly what calling Cllr Ezekiel was, a fact ! When you are aware of the facts then give me a shout !

I am aware of the facts and you are not. It does no credit at all for Members of the Save Dreamland Campaignto falsly accuse a much respected local councillor liar.

I think the Save Dreamland Campaign is now descending to the levels of the Gutter Press. I think you all ought to be ashamed of yourself.

I would expect now that the Save Dreamland Campaign will be issuing a formal apology for falsly accusing him of being a liar.

I think you may well find if such an apology is not given formal action will be taken against the Save Dreamland Campaign.

I think you have to relize that you cannot just go around making unsubstantiated and untrue allegations against people. The repercussions to the Campaign members could be very serious.

[dave771]

Bob I think you must of missed what Nick posted before regarding Phillip Miller ?

[porf]

Bob,

I am aware of the facts and you are not.

Thanks for another typically unsubstantiated "Bob" post.

I think you may well find if such an apology is not given formal action will be taken against the Save Dreamland Campaign.

Do you now claim to represent Cllr Ezekiel as well as Waterbridge (still with no proof) ?

While the campaign has evidence of an interested operator and while an elected councillor denies this in public for the second time this year I really can't see the problem here.

[taffy]

Bob's only method of logic defying defence is to basically to say 'I know something you don't' which is clearly untrue as he knows nothing at all. Why don't you address Nick's earlier post regarding his conversations with Mr Miller. The facts are clear.

Taffy

[Neil]

I am aware of the facts and you are not. It does no credit at all for Members of the Save Dreamland Campaignto falsly accuse a much respected local councillor liar.

I hardly believe that someone who does not know their own name is aware of the facts, nor someone who says you can't built a proper roller coaster for under £5 million (when Cobra is £2 million) or someone who said the fence didn't need planning permission.

Again you are clearly related to the MRC in some dodgy way, but I do not believe this makes you immune to being banned.

[Sarah]

It's easy to muddle up assertive and aggresive. It suits some people to label us as the latter, but we're not an aggresive bunch so I don't think we should to be too concerned about it.

It wasn't actually an SDC member who heckled Cllr Ezekiel, just a well-educated Margate resident who recognises when they're being spun a tale. As it says on the blog site, Cllr Ezekiel replied by saying "I'll speak to you later". He didn't.

If our councillors were honest, open and transparent about issues that the public care about they wouldn't have to deal with quite so many hecklers.

Sarah

[james_maskell]

To quickly correct DaveJJDD, I am not the James who was banned from this forum. This is my first posting here and I have no idea who this other James is.

[dave771]

Hi James, thankyou for clearing that up, your comments on another forum have not had many positive points to say about this campaign, would you care to explain your reasons for this ? As Sarah has already said "It's easy to muddle up assertive and aggresive"

[porf]

Hi James.

Firstly - Welcome to the forum.

I'm guessing (and it really is a guess so please correct me if I'm wrong) that your comments on the Thanet Life blog may relate to discussions you've seen on here between some campaign members and one forum user who posts using the nickname of "Bob".

I personally believe the forum is totally open towards new members, regardless of their views. Over the last few days we've had quite a few new members, possibly due to the Thanet Life blog.

If the assumption I've made above about what caused your comment is incorrect please drop me a PM as I'd be interested in how that perception has been created. If my guess is correct then I feel that a trawl through the archive of postings on the site may reveal how the poster concerned has built up a certain amount of negative goodwill through their previous postings.

Cheers

Paul.

[Cheryl]

Wouldn't it be wonderful if Philip Miller went to the local papers detailing his interest in acquiring the whole site and confirm his meeting with that muppet Ezekial. I believe his position as 'head' is being challenged and there is a lot of unrest among the party. It is of little wonder they should oust him as soon possible.

[Jim Douglas Jr.]

1. Everything Bob posts is garbage.
2. Quit responding to them.
3. Bob, go away. We're here to save Dreamland. You and your lies contribute nothing constructive.

[Vince, Charlie and Sam]

I think you may well find if such an apology is not given formal action will be taken against the Save Dreamland Campaign.
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If councillor Ezekiel stated that no-one is interested in taking on the site, then he is either mistaken or he is a liar. If he wants to waste his money persuing a libel action then that's up to him but any half-decent solicitor will be able to explain "justification" to him with regard to slander actions.

When did he ask you to speak on his behalf Barry?