Can we rename this forum..

[ripnet]

... Bob Bashing, and start a new forum for saving Dreamland?

All this rudeness towards poor old Bob is not doing our cause any good. We are actually quite lucky to have some input (however much salt you need...) from the 'enemy', and by all this childish bob bashing (losing marbles... unable to spell... wanna borrow a dictionary etc) we are just looking like fools. This is discrediting the campain IMHO. Maybe that is what he wants, but even as a biased (towards the entire site being a theme park) view, from where I am standing, Bob is coming out looking better than you lot (again IMHO).

What we should instead be concentrating on is making sure that the 2006 season is a success. IMHO this can be done by publicity. We need to make sure that the fact Dreamland is opening again is widely know, even if the 'offical' people dont want to advertise.

Sadly, I dont have any good ideas to contribute, but hey!

george

[Neil]

No-it should remain the Joyland Books forum because the campaigns founder who has put in an incredible ammount of work happens to run one of the internets premiere amusement park stores and I whole heartedly believe that for all the effort he has put in he deserves some publicity for his small business.Thanks Nick...

Actually it was Bob who raised the topic of marble loosing and the need for dictionaries:

Sorry Sarah it you who are loosing your marbles. I suggest you are in urgent need of a dictionary.

Bob suggested that Sarah was loosing her marbles becasue she accused Bob that his plans would be libel (which is true).

In the past we have patiently listened to Bob, however it recently turned out that he had been lying to us. He has previously claimed that the development company wanted to keep the entire site as an amusement park (ie they only wanted option 'c' becasue he claimed option 'b' wouldn't allow them to build a gift shop.) Unfortunately it turned out that he had been persistantly lying to the campaign which I'm afraid put him in the firing line. We can try and resolve the situation if he wants, but first we require an apology!

Finally I agree about trying to ensure the 2006 season is a success and I'm sure when we get nearer the time we can try and get a bit of media coverage. It is also worth remembering that a member of this forum set up an unofficial guide to the park that will helpfully help publicise it. The problem is advertising on the kind of scale that does much good would cost an awful lot and in the long term the money the campign has can be better spent in my opinion.

[ripnet]

ooops... maybe it was bob who started it, but we dont need to bite his bait every time

[Sarah]

Personally speaking, I tried ignoring him for a while but some of the claims he makes demand a response. Especially when they are untrue, misleading etc. And as I help to run the Campaign I sometimes feel a responsibility to speak up, when otherwise I may just roll my eyes and move on - if we don't challenge his misinformation, some people may start believing that it's true.

I've said on other threads that I am bored of Bob, but until he goes away or discovers some integrity and starts making sensible posts we are stuck with the current situation.

And as for 'Bob bashing' well - people who deserve my respect and courtesy get it. People who tell half truths, make antagonistic statements and bandy around insults don't.

Sarah

[David Ellis]

Sarah,

I couldn't agree with you more. I normally hold back on spilling my initial thoughts, but some of Bob's recent posts has made me fume somewhat.

It does appear that he is deliberately trying to upset and annoy, which isn't helpful to the campaign at all. For example threatening to quote one person's comments as being the Campaign's official view, and then, when pointed out to him that it would be libellous, deliberately putting togther a (hopefully) mock-up advert quoting the Campaign as being in support of the developers' plans.

That sort of thing is both cheeky and infuriating, and has to be answered back.

David.

[ripnet]

Dont feed the trolls

[DaveD]

As I posted previously, there is nothing wrong with someone generally stirring up some controversy in the campaign and I wish we had more of it so we could actually have an intelligent, well-structured debate but Bob continues to make statements without any foundation of fact, purely to provoke a reaction from campaign members, it's that simple..

He is also obviously aware that his postings are going to be generally disparaged and should be prepared for some light-hearted barracking but when pushed into a corner, he responds by coming out with some pretty juvenilistic comments without addressing or respecting the persons opinion and the time they have taken to state it.

Dave

[Neil]

He is also obviously aware that his postings are going to be generally disparaged and should be prepared for some light-hearted barracking but when pushed into a corner, he responds by coming out with some pretty juvenilistic comments without addressing or respecting the persons opinion and the time they have taken to state it.

Dave

Definately. If you go onto any website shared by people with a passion and start going against the flow you can expect a slightly hostile reaction. If an Arsenal fan went onto a Manchester United Forum and started slagging Man U off they wouldn't expect a warm reception with tea and cakes. The point is Bob isn't tactful and his arogance puts people's backs up. If he said "I hope these important historic buildings are knocked down" we would give him more time than saying "these building will be knocked down and anyone who objects is silly and wasting their time".

Bob also isn't prepared to listen to us. We've asked him so many times to reveal whether he has a financial interest and he rudely ignores us. Personally my patience is now running thin and if he was banned it wouldn't bother me. He has skated on thin ice long enough.