Bob wrote:porterm wrote:Hi all,
Did anyone hear about Bob Geldof's comments regarding his opinion of the current state of Margate on the local BBC news a couple of nights ago? Apparently he called the place "ugly". Their cameras showed quite a few graffiti-attacked places around the area, however no mention of Dreamland was made (or any images shown). Possibly that could have been a good thing in its present standing.
Martin
PS I thought I'd catch a few people out by the subject title I chose here (thought a few might have thought it referred to this site's other rather infamous Bob!)
I dont's think any sensible person can disagee. Margate is indeed a dirty run down town. If anyone thinks they will turn the town around based on a small fairground then they are very deluded indeed. Sadly though I think the majority of posters are that deluded.
Whilst tourism may play a small part in Margates future it will be an insignificant part and to focus only on that is a very grave mistake.
At the moment Margate is pretty much a town of retired people and immigrants and asylum seekers. What Margat badly needs is proper jobs and not the few casual jobs a faireground will bring.
BOB THIS IS FOR YOU,PLEASE READ!
Margat
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View of Margat from ground level
Path leading to MargatMargat, also known as Marqab (from the Arabic Qalaat al-Marqab, قلعة المرقب, "Castle of the Watchtower") was a Crusader fortress in modern Syria. It was one of the major strongholds of the Knights Hospitaller.
Margat was located on a hill about 500 metres above sea level, formed by an extinct volcano on the road between Tripoli and Latakia, overlooking the Mediterranean Sea. It was probably an ancient fortress, but earliest existing defences were built in 1062 by the Arabs, who continued to hold it within the Christian Principality of Antioch in the aftermath of the First Crusade. When the Principality was defeated at the Battle of Harran in 1104, the Byzantine Empire took advantage of their weakness and captured Margat from the Muslims. A few years later it was captured by Tancred, Prince of Galilee, regent of Antioch, and was incorporated into the Principality.
In the 1170s it was controlled by Reynald II Mazoir of Antioch as a vassal of the count of Tripoli; the fortress was so large that it had its own household officials and a number of rear-vassals. His son Bertrand sold it to the Hospitallers in 1186 as it was too expensive for the Mazoir family to maintain. After some rebuilding and expansion by the Hospitallers, it became their headquarters in Syria. Under Hospitaller control, its fourteen towers were thought to be impregnable; Saladin besieged the castle in 1188 but was unable to capture it, and it was one of the few remaining territories left in Christian hands after Saladin's conquests.
By the beginning of the 13th century the Hospitallers controlled the surrounding land and roads and made a large profit from travellers and pilgrims passing through. Isaac Comnenus of Cyprus was imprisoned there after Richard I of England captured Cyprus from him during the Third Crusade. The bishop of nearby Valenia also used Margat as his headquarters after around 1240. Margat was second in size in power only to the other Hospitaller fortress to the south, Krak des Chevaliers.
The Mameluk sultan of Egypt Qalawun besieged it beginning on April 25, 1285, and captured it after a month when sappers mined the north wall. Qalawun respected the size of the fortress and the courage of its defenders, and allowed the Hospitallers to leave with everything they could carry. Rather than destroy it as he did with other fortresses, he placed a Mameluk garrison in it.
now you might be banging on about Margat
but the rest of us are talking about MARGATE
come back bob when we are talking about the same country and town lol