MTCRC - CPO Objection - Their plans for the site

[porf]

In this week's "ThisIsKent", MTCRC put forward some of their plans for the Dreamland site and why they shouldn't have it CPO'd.

http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/Dreamland-bosses-fight-fun-park/story-14092197-detail/story.html

I think there's been a typo in the article heading as I think it should read "Dreamland Bosses fight for large housing estate around all the stuff we wish wasn't there"

Anything good seems to match up with the Trust's plan, with other ideas leading to a site that in my opinion wouldn't attract people to Margate as a tourist attraction.

The comparison between the 1st and 3rd photo included in the article is also interesting, one being the artistic impression view to sell the scheme and the other being far more likely to be the reality of bland block housing too close to a series of listed structures.

[Nick Evans]

Wholeheartedly agree with PORF on this one. I hope I'm right in saying this is nothing more than a blatant spoiler and nothing to do with doing the right thing. If they were sincere about their plan, why didn't MTCRC unveil these plans ages ago before it got to this stage? The Trust would still have objected I'm sure on the grounds the houses are too close to the rides. Certainly this wouldn't stand as a tourist attraction helping regenerate Margate.

[porterm]

I totally agree with your sentiments about this news story. It reminds me of the former USA park, Whalom Park, whose campaigners coined the classic phrase "coasters not condos".

What I find particularly amazing is that MTCRC have already had nearly nine years to implement some preservation works towards the Dreamland site's listed buildings and have failed miserably. I'm sure many others here have similar feelings. I reckon this article is possibly a last ditch attempt to try to salvage what they can from this ongoing saga.

They also appear to imply that they have the only method to ensure that all the park's listed structures get the fullest restoration action. I believe that the Dreamland Trust's Phase 1 and 2 processes will also provide a complete overhaul, and it could surely allow patrons and interested parties to offer further monetary donations to fund future phases, as required.

Martin

[barcrest]

What a crock, the sooner the CPO is actioned the better.

[DaveD]

While it does smack of last-minute desperation, these plans are quite worrying.

With the Turner up and running and the Queen visiting, TDC maybe more open-minded to a clone-town "boulevard" type of thing in keeping with it's regeneration than it was?

Saying that, I think things have moved on a great deal since the days of Toby Hunter so I doubt anything will come of this.


DD

[Bob]

There plan looks to be very viable unlike the Dreamland Trusts plan. It also fulfills the requirement for affordable housing and also provides a lot of other beneficial facilities to the town

Overall the MTCRC is fully viavble, fully costed and needs no public subsidy and provides much needed affordable housing. It would be very difficult on the basis of this to make a case for a CPO

[Zoidstar]

There plan looks to be very viable unlike the Dreamland Trusts plan. It also fulfills the requirement for affordable housing and also provides a lot of other beneficial facilities to the town

Overall the MTCRC is fully viavble, fully costed and needs no public subsidy and provides much needed affordable housing. It would be very difficult on the basis of this to make a case for a CPO

IF it was that viable why have they not started work on it, have they even submitted a planning application if its so viable?

[porf]

Bit late for that bit of astroturfing isn't it Bob?

I think I'll just wait and see how this week pans out!

[John Humphrey]

Chris Miele used to be with English Heritage!

In addition, this may be controversial but some of us are very angry with Tesco over a recent decision it has made over which charities it will support. A Tesco on the Arlington site will lose the company even more good will. Why not redevelop their Cliftonville (Northdown Road) site into a major store? Then, if they still feel that they should have a presence in Margate proper, they should open a Metro store in (for example) the old Woolworth store.

[Peet]

There plan looks to be very viable unlike the Dreamland Trusts plan. It also fulfills the requirement for affordable housing and also provides a lot of other beneficial facilities to the town

Overall the MTCRC is fully viavble, fully costed and needs no public subsidy and provides much needed affordable housing. It would be very difficult on the basis of this to make a case for a CPO

The grammar in this post is poor and the content worse. One scheme achieves the aim of making a tidy profit for a company, the other brings a world first attraction to Margate which will bring visitors from miles around for many years. Let's just hope the correct decision is made.

[RICO]

Am I missing something....

Margate and Thanet needs jobs and tourism (i.e. wealth creation) not housing. Margate's decline is due to an imbalance between jobs and existing relatively cheap housing (which Thanet already has an abundance of relative to many parts of the UK). Local schools and social services are already struggling. We need to be able to cope with those who live here first and manage existing housing stock better. Building more houses suggests we'll just make things worse.

Even if Margate needed more housing, why build more houses on a prime sea front location which, if/ when Margate succeeds, will end up being a prime location for a holiday home, well out of the reach of affordable housing market.

I'm in favour of the heritage site not only because of the better job/ tourist/ redevelopment of Margate potential, but also because I believe this is the best solution. The issue should be more about ensuring we end up with a quality heritage site in line with parks such as Tivoli, Grona Lund and Liseberg rather than cheap second rate Alton Towers.

MTCRC should do the honourable thing and step aside and stop wasting more money....

[vince69619]

Now that's what I call a first post. Welcome RICO.

Vince.

[Jim Douglas Jr.]

Rico rocks.

Bob, as usual, is being a troll.
I thought he died from over-eating in front of his computer.

Here's the last known photo taken of poor Bob.

[Bob]

Chris Miele used to be with English Heritage!

In addition, this may be controversial but some of us are very angry with Tesco over a recent decision it has made over which charities it will support. A Tesco on the Arlington site will lose the company even more good will. Why not redevelop their Cliftonville (Northdown Road) site into a major store? Then, if they still feel that they should have a presence in Margate proper, they should open a Metro store in (for example) the old Woolworth store.

It does meet the local develepoment plan for Margate which is for Supermarkets to be located in Town centre sites

[EAS]

Miele used to work for EH... he's been on The Dark Side for a long time now though.



http://www.whtimes.co.uk/news/tesco_pla ... _1_1175110


A Tesco refused...